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Frying Doom
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Posted - 2013.11.08 20:54:00 -
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Wonder if I can go to Null start a one man war and then claim "my brother did it"
Look more of the same CCP ignoring the EULA. This time the account sharing part  |

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Posted - 2013.11.08 22:13:00 -
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Darius JOHNSON wrote: Don't have anything else to say in this thread except who the **** are you that CCP should talk to you before dealing with another customer? Talk about having your entitled nose in the air.
I believe the answer to that would be.
Someone who was about to publish yet another travesty by CCP. |

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Posted - 2013.11.08 22:21:00 -
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Darius JOHNSON wrote:Frying Doom wrote:Darius JOHNSON wrote: Don't have anything else to say in this thread except who the **** are you that CCP should talk to you before dealing with another customer? Talk about having your entitled nose in the air.
I believe the answer to that would be. Someone who was about to publish yet another travesty by CCP. First off "Travesty"? Secondly, AND? I'd love to know what some of you people have accomplished to warrant this degree of entitlement. Are you perhaps all princes and princesses? Ok so we have your opinion then that giving someone 17,000,000 SP back for their stupidity is just great then.
As to the degree of entitlement, well how about we just believe the EULA should be enforced the same for every player, not just on CCPs whim. You may believe that CCP should just give people what ever they feel like at any moment, I however do not. |

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Posted - 2013.11.08 22:32:00 -
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Darius JOHNSON wrote:I was pretty clear in what I said. You're a pubbie so you're obviously slow but you can't quote someone then say they said something they didn't. At least edit/remove it to fit your invented narrative. Nothing you said answers in any way the question which is who the **** are you to be privvy to the communications between CCP and another customer? Least of all to the degree that you demand they speak to you before doing their jobs?
If the answer you give isn't "Nobody" it's the wrong answer, because in this instance that's exactly who all of you are.
:edit: for the record I agree that if the facts are what they are the dude shouldn't have gotten any SP back. Not disputing that just disgusted with how some of you plebs present yourselves. Oh good insults already, good to see you have no basis for what you are saying
No one said anything about demanding to speak to them before they do their jobs.
Especially as this was about the fact they had already done their jobs by giving someone 17,000,000SP back
This was about asking CCP to answer about how they have already done their jobs, before this was published.
So the real question is who the **** do you think you are to come over all high and mighty about someone asking CCP to comment before they publish? |

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Posted - 2013.11.08 22:33:00 -
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Brusanan wrote:Darius JOHNSON wrote:I'd love to know what some of you people have accomplished to warrant this degree of entitlement. Are you perhaps all princes and princesses? Who are you? Some kind of Mittani alt or something? Erotica 1 is a public servant and a future CSM member. He's a pretty big deal. There has always been backlash whenever CCP reimburses a carebear for stuff they lost by being terrible. It takes no level of entitlement, and it is to be expected. After all, the amount of whining on the forums is the metric CCP uses to measure whether a decision of theirs was good or bad. No he is some old CSM member who has stepped up as our current CSM has hidden. Apparently CCP still needed white knights. |

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Posted - 2013.11.08 22:36:00 -
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Darius JOHNSON wrote:Frying Doom wrote:
No one said anything about demanding to speak to them before they do their jobs.
erotica 1 wrote: I requested CCP speak to me before taking any action, but I did not receive a response. Read much? Maybe you should buy a dictionary and look up the words
Demand and requested.
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Posted - 2013.11.08 22:41:00 -
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Darius JOHNSON wrote:
Given that there's very little difference when questioning one's sense of entitlement I guess I'll just go ahead and lean back.
That would probably be good.
Seeing as you seem to be the one suffering from a huge sense of self entitlement.
Nor the ability to understand the English language. |

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Posted - 2013.11.08 22:45:00 -
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Darius JOHNSON wrote:Nathalie LaPorte wrote:Darius JOHNSON wrote: If the answer you give isn't "Nobody" it's the wrong answer, because in this instance that's exactly who all of you are.
Your definitions are 100% opposite from the truth. Asking someone to talk to you, because you have in your possession pertinent evidence: a reasonable request. Not showing entitlement. Calling a bunch of other people "nobody": An insult which obviously says much more about you than it possibly could about a huge crowd of random people. This shows that you consider yourself entitled. Calling everyone pubbies and publords only continues to show your feelings of entitlement. I'm glad I could help with your lack of understanding in this matter. You may want to look up "entitlement" I don't think it means what you think it means. Especially given that in that context the insinuation was not that I was "Somebody" but rather merely that you are "nobody" in the context of a communication between CCP and another customer. It was pretty clearly stated as such.
Wikipedia wrote:In a casual sense, the term "entitlement" refers to a notion or belief that one (or oneself) has a right to some particular reward or benefitGÇöif given without deeper legal or principled cause, the term is often given with pejorative connotation (e.g. a "sense of entitlement"). You feel an entitlement to criticize other people because you believe you are better than everyone else.
You feel entitled to this........................Unfortunately you are Wrong. |

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Posted - 2013.11.08 22:46:00 -
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Darius JOHNSON wrote:Frying Doom wrote:Darius JOHNSON wrote:
Given that there's very little difference when questioning one's sense of entitlement I guess I'll just go ahead and lean back.
That would probably be good. Seeing as you seem to be the one suffering from a huge sense of self entitlement. Nor the ability to understand the English language.  You should probably look that word up as well. Calling your "CSM Candidate" or whatever the OP out for acting entitled doesn't confer any entitlement on me. I'm presuming this is what passes for some pubbie attempt at being macchiavellian but for the record you look pretty dumb. Once again insults because you believe you are better than me.
You feel entitled to insult others.
FAIL!!! |

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Posted - 2013.11.08 22:49:00 -
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Agent Kailethre wrote:"Hee hee they aren't in my super sekrit goons club, they're all dirty pubbies!" So tell me, where did you get your sense of entitlement from? You're in Goonswarm, good for you. Point out to me why your opinion is suddenly the top notch in this thread. Actually I thought his post showed why Goons should NOT have a sense of Entitlement.
Hell they apparently let anyone in. |

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Posted - 2013.11.08 22:53:00 -
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Kate stark wrote:Brusanan wrote:Stop derailing the thread by focusing on what was obviously a troll instead of the dangerous precedent that CCP could be setting here. you say that like CCP care about setting dangerous and dumb precedents. see the sticky that has been abandoned for nearly a month. Once again we are back to the same thing.
CCP ignoring the EULA and the CSM and Internal affairs doing god knows what.
Now I am not saying this should have even passed by the CSM but surely somewhere CCP has a sticky note saying
"Do not allow people to breach the EULA"
It probably fell on the floor. |

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Posted - 2013.11.08 23:17:00 -
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Darius JOHNSON wrote:The problem here is it doesn't fit Erotica 1's attempt at creating a scandal if it's not a tremendous deal. This is pretty transparent and silly.
It's certainly an issue and CCP should go over it and probably reverse their decision but holy christ is this a ham handed attempt at manufacturing drama. Actually I think CCP has done a good job of manufacturing the drama.
The article like all those before it on TMC and EvE News 24, have just brought them into the light. |

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Posted - 2013.11.08 23:27:00 -
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TigerXtrm wrote:KnowUsByTheDead wrote:TigerXtrm wrote:Can we PLEASE go a few weeks without some self proclaimed CCP scandal? Thanks... Self proclaimed? How about fully documented? Self proclaimed. From CCP's point of view: "Wow, this guy got scammed good. What an idiot. Let's just give the moron his SP back as a one time favor, no harm done." From the entitled forum trolls' point of view: "FAVORITISM! CCP is giving out free SP to random players! SCANDAL! T20 all over again! This player now has a MAJOR advantage! OH THE HORROR! Biomassragequitunsubcan'thavemystuffgoodbye!" For the love of god stop blowing **** way out of proportion. At the very worst CCP took pity on a player who was so ******** that he let himself get podded over 50 times and gave him his SP back. Big whoop. If this is what constitutes a scandal these days we're in deep sh*t. Isn't that roughly what you said about the whole Somer thing?
Shame you were not around for the T20 scandal, I am sure you could have told people that it was fine, that there was nothing to worry about and that they should just pretend it never happened. |

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Posted - 2013.11.08 23:47:00 -
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PotatoOverdose wrote:ElQuirko wrote:PotatoOverdose wrote:The gold magnates were stopped. The RMT was closed down ....slowly (oh, and ccp, fck you for giving somer 10 days to cash out their RMT op). The massive favoritism happened, but we made a huge stink and it may be a while before it happens again.
The forums do have some small influence. It's not worth expending it on some worthless triviality just so Erotica has higher visibility before his run for CSM. You're right, let's ignore the precedent being set down here. Players of EVE! It is of no importance that you are no longer responsible for your own stupidity! Go about your business as usual. Honestly, if you think CCP follows precedents, you haven't been paying attention.  Your absolutely right.
CCP does not follow precedents, it just ignores it own EULA and rewards some players on a whim while banning others for exactly the same EULA breaches.
Makes a player driven sandbox mean so much more. |

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Posted - 2013.11.08 23:51:00 -
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Shalua Rui wrote:...face it Ero, it's CCPs game, and they do whatever they want with it/in it and around it. Then maybe they should add that to the EULA, see how well that goes for them |

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Posted - 2013.11.09 00:07:00 -
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It would be nice to go back to a quiet period where
CCP were not shitting in the Sandbox all of the Time The CSM was actually the voice of the players And the game was about to get a real expansion.
I fear however that this is now years in the past and will never be seen again. |

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Posted - 2013.11.09 00:17:00 -
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PotatoOverdose wrote:Like I said, see you guys in Erotica's next publicity stunt threadnaught.[/b] Personally I don't think anyone should bother to vote in the next election.
CSM7 and 8 are hardly what I would call a reason to be bothered voting for the voice of the players. |

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Posted - 2013.11.09 00:21:00 -
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TigerXtrm wrote:Agent Kailethre wrote: Wow, this idiot just got scammed and lost a bunch of SP. Let's just interfere in our player driven game where we actively encourage this kind of activity.
It was his fault and it should be his responsibility to retrain or cease playing. CCP should not be interfering.
What most of you geniuses fail to comprehend is that CCP is a business. As a player of a sandbox game that is popular for being harsh I too would say; 'The idiot had it coming, screw him. No-one that stupid should even be playing this game.' However, for CCP this person, no matter how stupid, is a paying customer. If a slight interference will ensure he remains a (happy) paying customer then so be it. When it comes to the bottom line that's an easy decision to make. As long as it doesn't affect the game's economy or otherwise tips the balance in someone's favor. What you people label as a 'scandal' is in reality just a business trying to keep its customers happy the best it can. You really need to keep a firm eye on where the game sandbox ends and CCP as a real world company with real world employees to pay begins. Those two don't always go together. The term ' player driven' is exactly that. Driven. EVE is not player created or player managed. It's player driven. The reality is that CCP gets the final say in absolutely everything, including the decision to give some poor smuck his SP back. Agree with it or don't, luckily it really doesn't matter a tiny little bit. Ummm we are all paying customers....
Doesn't that mean we should all be getting 'slight interference' to the tune of 17,000,000 SP to keep us happy?
This is where your argument falls down, where one paying customer is treated better than the rest or is allowed to ignore the rules. |

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Posted - 2013.11.09 00:41:00 -
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TigerXtrm wrote:Frying Doom wrote: Ummm we are all paying customers....
Doesn't that mean we should all be getting 'slight interference' to the tune of 17,000,000 SP to keep us happy?
This is where your argument falls down, where one paying customer is treated better than the rest or is allowed to ignore the rules.
Welcome to the real world. Please name one business that does not work like this? Go into Wallmart, complain about something and if the manager thinks it's economically justified to give you a gift card for your troubles then that's what he does. But the manager might just as well tell the guy to get lost and lose a customer. That's his decision and his decision alone. Coincidentally you have the same type of people in Walmart as on these forums. Person A got a gift card so logically person B should get one too because it's only fair  So tell me, if you get a gift card from Walmart for some kind of inconvenience, you think every customer of Walmart should get a gift card too? What world do you live in? The manager is probably working on how bad a stink it is likely to cause, if that person may have the right to sue and whether or not any other recent incidents like it have occurred.
It is not about favoritism it is about money. In a case like this they need to way up exactly the same questions and in this case was making 1 person happy likely to give them more money compared to the loss they may suffer because of another case of them ignoring the EULA? |

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Posted - 2013.11.09 00:47:00 -
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Boom Boom Longtime wrote:Is the train out of control ? Now no body panic.
This train is in complete control and will be stopping soon.
Just because we went off a cliff, does not imply a loss of control, we are going straight down and will stop as soon as we hit the bottom. |

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Posted - 2013.11.09 01:06:00 -
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Zazz Razzamatazz wrote:Radax Glenn wrote: I would pay very close attention to paragraph four.
I would pay closer attention to 1.3 "Reimbursement will only be granted if a loss is attributable to a bug or server error. " Did the player in question loose his skillpoints due to a "bug or server error"? or
Section 9. 5. If someone gained access to your account as a result of your use of a third party program or other violation of our EULA/TOS, all requests for reimbursement will be null and void. |

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Posted - 2013.11.09 06:40:00 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:wagashi wrote:Compassion seems alittle out of place here. Scam victums of all sorts have "lost everything" do they deserve a rewind as well? I'm more than a little supprised that usual HTFU posters are coming to the defense of a player that went crying to CCP after they lost at EVE. I didn't say it was right. I was just pointing out that it likely wasn't favoritism. Mr Epeen  Compassion shown to some people and not others is what? |

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Posted - 2013.11.09 06:55:00 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:Frying Doom wrote:Mr Epeen wrote:wagashi wrote:Compassion seems alittle out of place here. Scam victums of all sorts have "lost everything" do they deserve a rewind as well? I'm more than a little supprised that usual HTFU posters are coming to the defense of a player that went crying to CCP after they lost at EVE. I didn't say it was right. I was just pointing out that it likely wasn't favoritism. Mr Epeen  Compassion shown to some people and not others is what? Err...a random act of kindness? Mr Epeen  See now I would have said falling for a Pulitzer prize winning scam by a player or favoritism. So they are either gullible or playing favorites.
Random acts of kindness is just a phrase that says favoritism. |

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Posted - 2013.11.09 07:04:00 -
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Mekkimaru wrote:why is this thread still alive
stop posting, just admit you are jelly and want free sp Yes I want free SP
Kind of like saying 'Who wants free money' isnt it? |

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Posted - 2013.11.09 07:05:00 -
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dexington wrote:Frying Doom wrote:Random acts of kindness is just a phrase that says favoritism. Favoritism is not random... Exactly, no random act of kindness is every truly random. |

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Posted - 2013.11.10 11:20:00 -
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Cryptic Powers wrote: BUT the reason I left CEO for Steelfleet had absolutely nothing to do with what they did nor did they ruin our Killboards. Pods, ruin a Killboard... seriously? Cryptic Powers, Steelfleet Member. Maybe Erotica1 got the idea from an email sent by someone signing a mail to Steel Fleet as 'Cryptic' titled 'KB RUINED'  |

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Posted - 2013.11.10 11:31:00 -
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Cryptic Powers wrote:and I did verify previously that Kiarrah/heavy/whoever he/she is now days... that they did not give you access to any API codes... so I'm a bit confused here. How did you come across said emails in your story? and where did you get the false information that I left steelfleet CEO because of them? Either way, I thought I'd pass long here and help inform the readers of the truth behind this intergalactic drama filled falsehood/scam this individual did. I do suspect you will reply to this and attempt to defend yourself or give some blind excuse why you lied about me or Steelfleet. Cryptic Powers, Steelfleet Member. Oh sorry I forgot to mention in my last post that I also have access to this non-existent API.
Your 'truth' seems to not be so accurate.
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Posted - 2013.11.10 11:42:00 -
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Capt Starfox wrote:Hey CCP I was there(tm) at 6VDT, where's my Ishukone Scorpion? Oh dammit, wrong thread..
Hey CCP since I'm bad at PvP and get podded often, do I have to worry about updating my clone anymore? Up to 17m sp, right? Or, rather could we like 10m sp.. would boost my skill training and seeing as how generous you are lately with ships and refunds.. what's 10m sp between friends? Not even 17m. Or maybe a Ishukone Scorpion?
Thanks guys <3 I would rather have 17 million Sp, a gold magnate and the ability to ignore the EULA and 'Redacted'
You know just like everyone else....oh sorry thats just like selected people. |
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